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AbbadonTheDespoilerator wrote:

Having a company in control of a subreddit devoted to the brand/one of their products is against the point of Reddit, and is in fact against the terms of service of Reddit. GGG can not, and should not, ever have control of the subreddit.

You can argue the former all you'd like, but the latter is 100% not true. Companies can and do manage their own subreddits all the time. Heck it's not even in the comprehesive Reditquette documentation any more (which I'll note isn't actually Reddit, it's just a community consusensue without any enforcability beyond public shaming).

Reddit's ToS makes it a MINEFILED for a company to do so, because basically anything a company knowingly posts, Reddit is given eternal rights to use however they wish. I don't know if that particular part of the ToS has ever sat before a judge before, so I can't tell if it'd hold up or not (as I'm very much not a lawyer).

Heck just looking up the Reddit ToS to read it myself (because your claim sounded utterly insane to me, how would they even enforce that? And why when it would be so awful for their bussiness model?) I found three different pages talking about how to do exactly that, what looked like a business consultant who was doing it by hire, and two generalized blogs about the pros and cons.

I also happened into a random thing claiming that you can file to take over a subredit in which the mods haven't had activity in for two months, so all of you "just make your own reddit" might be able to just reclaim a preexisting one. Though you'll have to see if that's actually real, I only read the headline.

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Posted by
Northern_Ronin
on Jun 15, 2023, 8:00:47 PM

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What happened is that on reddit a small group of people moderate a large amount of subreddits.

And now they are upset that reddit (which is bleeding money) wants to be compensated for third parties accessing their servers (and making lots of money with that).
So they locked down all the subreddits they are moderating, it is really annoying.

I think either someone else has to take control of the poe subreddit or a new one has to be made.

The moderators are hurting a lot of communities, much more than they are hurting reddit.

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Having a company in control of a subreddit devoted to the brand/one of their products is against the point of Reddit, and is in fact against the terms of service of Reddit. GGG can not, and should not, ever have control of the subreddit.

Times change, Reddit might now like that alternative more than having a small amount of random people moderate all of their important subreddits.

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Posted by
La_Nague
on Jun 15, 2023, 8:28:01 PM

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It's amusing watching the disconnect of those that dislike the "cesspool" of reddit but at the same time wanting to browse reddit.

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on Jun 15, 2023, 9:21:03 PM

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Northern_Ronin wrote:

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AbbadonTheDespoilerator wrote:

Having a company in control of a subreddit devoted to the brand/one of their products is against the point of Reddit, and is in fact against the terms of service of Reddit. GGG can not, and should not, ever have control of the subreddit.

You can argue the former all you'd like, but the latter is 100% not true. Companies can and do manage their own subreddits all the time. Heck it's not even in the comprehesive Reditquette documentation any more (which I'll note isn't actually Reddit, it's just a community consusensue without any enforcability beyond public shaming).

Reddit's ToS makes it a MINEFILED for a company to do so, because basically anything a company knowingly posts, Reddit is given eternal rights to use however they wish. I don't know if that particular part of the ToS has ever sat before a judge before, so I can't tell if it'd hold up or not (as I'm very much not a lawyer).

Heck just looking up the Reddit ToS to read it myself (because your claim sounded utterly insane to me, how would they even enforce that? And why when it would be so awful for their bussiness model?) I found three different pages talking about how to do exactly that, what looked like a business consultant who was doing it by hire, and two generalized blogs about the pros and cons.

I also happened into a random thing claiming that you can file to take over a subredit in which the mods haven't had activity in for two months, so all of you "just make your own reddit" might be able to just reclaim a preexisting one. Though you'll have to see if that's actually real, I only read the headline.

The direct quote from the reddit ToS is "You may not perform moderation actions in return for any form of compensation, consideration, gift, or favor from third parties;"

Its a legal minefield for GGG staff to have moderator access to the subreddit.

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Posted by
AbbadonTheDespoilerator
on Jun 15, 2023, 11:48:25 PM

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is the reddit community going to allow to stay as hostage on this protest?

you can create a new place on the same website or post here.. the entire reddit community is somewhat being hold back by what? 5-10 people that are high with power?

"Parade your victories, hide your defeats. Mortals are so insecure."

Once you break the cycle of fear no angels or demons can whisper you their sweet nothing words.

Retired since crucible.(Not a free tester anymore for a multi billion dollar company).

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Xystre
on Jun 16, 2023, 12:14:13 AM

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Xystre wrote:

is the reddit community going to allow to stay as hostage on this protest?

you can create a new place on the same website or post here.. the entire reddit community is somewhat being hold back by what? 5-10 people that are high with power?

You had plenty of time to volunteer to be a moderator :)

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AbbadonTheDespoilerator
on Jun 16, 2023, 12:35:14 AM

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The same people/mods are throttling discussion and criticism of it here

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Raveshaw0 wrote:

The same people/mods are throttling discussion and criticism of it here

How. How do they have any ability to "throttle" discussions on the official PoE forums?

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AbbadonTheDespoilerator
on Jun 16, 2023, 1:14:29 AM

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Honestly, the POE reddit is nothing more than a toxic hive of shill accounts. The mod's banned anyone with constructive criticism or dissenting opinions about the game there within a matter of days of their last round of rule changes.

Even if they permanently put the lid on that sewer, nothing of value would be lost at all.

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on Jun 16, 2023, 1:38:37 AM

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AbbadonTheDespoilerator wrote:

Honestly, the POE reddit is nothing more than a toxic hive of shill accounts. The mod's banned anyone with constructive criticism or dissenting opinions about the game there within a matter of days of their last round of rule changes.

Even if they permanently put the lid on that sewer, nothing of value would be lost at all.

Reddit won't even remove kiddy porn, what in the world makes you think they'd ever take any action about the POE sub ?

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